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Feature Article: Readers Reactions (both good and bad) to Jonathan's recent article, "A Window into the ?MySpace' Generation"
HAVE YOU READ JONATHAN'S ARTICLES
ABOUT THE MYSPACE EPIDEMIC?
- Click Here for PART I in the series where Jonathan reveals the truth behind the rumors.
- Click Here for PART II where Jonathan talks about our response to the epidemic.
We had an enormous response to our recent articles on the MySpace epidemic. The article
seemed to spark a lot of feedback. I don't think we've had this much response from readers
since my article on drinking
or the one about gross games.
I wanted to post some of the responses. There is no way we could post all of them, so we're
just including 14 responses, a sample representing the majority. Thank you all for your feedback
about this hot issue. I'll include small notes after many of the reactions...some provoked me to
comment or respond.
Thank you to all who passed the articles on to others, linked the articles, or reprinted it
with permission. We're just glad to be a free resource to youth workers and parents.
Jonathan, I really appreciate your approach to myspace.com. Outright prohibition,
especially without education on the parents' behalf, can often breed rebellion. Your idea to permit
supervised use is one I've already recommended to a parent of one of the youth I work with.
Thanks Greg... I'm glad that the article was a help. But remember, my "2 cents"
was to only "prayerfully consider" supervised use with a kid 16-years-old or older. It's not an
automatic "yes." Personally, I tend to float a little more on the "no" side based on the ads
alone. But parents have to be the one to make that decision. -Jonathan
INVOLVED WITH HER KIDS:
First, thanks for having the guts to tackle the Myspace challenge. I appreciate
your thoughtful comments and ideas. Perhaps the most glaring revelation Myspace provides is the
horrible hands off approach most parents take with their teenagers! Where are mom and dad--even
Christian mom and dads? Myspace has been a great tool to keep my 14 year old daughter and her
friends accountable (for the pictures they post and the comments they make). It has provided
teachable moments and rich conversation as we've had to talk about God's standards and what it
means to honor God on Myspace. Parenting is not just about protecting kids-but getting them ready
to THINK biblically about things especially as they grow older. I want my kids to redeem the
Internet for God's glory. To simply pull the plug on it seems a little easy and simplistic to me
and perhaps leaves one feeling like a good parent... but what about the option of being involved
with our kids and teaching them to live and think biblically in the nitty gritty of technological
life in the 21st century? -Anonymous
Thanks so much for your response as a parent. You are a trooper. I say that
because you've done what so many parents don't do... that is to invest time into their kids'
lives, teaching them to think biblically and holding them accountable. I once heard that love is
spelled T-I-M-E. Keep up the good work.
I am disappointed that you eventually endorsed Myspace.com for youth group
interaction. You disqualified the entire rest of the article. Out of one side of your mouth, you
said, "run away" and on the other side, you said, use it to communicate with teens on their own
terms. Phil. 4:8 should be our guideline. I agree it is a terrible seduction for some and that
makes it something to completely avoid and never recommend, as to who is to decide when you will
be vulnerable - we are all prone to fall. I have no problem with accountability logging on to
check up on our teens but not to ever endorse it. Unfortunately, it is a hotly, debated pleasure
and the source of offense to the teens we ask to not participate in myspace. But we cannot let
up - we cannot speak out of both sides of our mouth. Clearly, if we search for scripture to guide
our actions, we'd only recommend things completely wholesome. So, we can confidently say, "You
shouldn't be there." just a humble opinion, -Anonymous
I appreciate your humble opinion. But I have to question your conclusions.
First, I never endorsed "recommending" the site. As a matter of fact, I cautioned against it.
Here are my exact words from the article:
One of the difficult situations youth workers are facing is the balance between using the
site and trying not to endorse it. Using MySpace is not a sin. But let's be honest, it is an
arena that we may not want to encourage kids to explore. I encourage you to pray carefully
before even using this tool. The youth workers I know who use MySpace don't talk about it
Sunday a.m. or Wednesday nights. They don't want kids who are NOT current MySpace users to get
the feeling from church that they SHOULD be on MySpace. So tread these waters carefully.
As for your reasoning about it being a seduction for some, so "that makes it
something to completely avoid" ... I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing that as "clearly" as you. So
I'll "confidently" ask you: Do you have a TV? Because you don't want to speak out of one side of
your mouth and say "you shouldn't be there" about a certain web address, and then speak out of
the other side of your mouth and say, "But this channel is okay." I recommend that you make sure
and block ABC on your cable box, because Desperate Housewives is on that channel and some
people might struggle with that show. As you know, ABC is the "address" that the show resides at,
so block the whole channel (After all, to only not watch one show would be like only blocking
certain risqu? MySpace pages. We all know that there are innocent shows and innocent MySpace
pages, but there are bad ones on each as well. So let's block the whole address and the whole
channel!). But make sure that everyone in your church blocks it, because, according to you,
It is a terrible seduction for some and that makes it something to completely
avoid." Oh... and have everyone block FOX from their cable box also, because I'm sure some
people struggle with The O.C. (Sorry, that also means no more American Idol
either) Wait... I'm just getting started. Also block CBS, because a lot of people struggle with
Two and a Half Men. What the heck-we might as well all block NBC, the WB, MTV and The
Comedy Channel because they have Las Vegas, Everwood, Laguna Beach and Chappelle's
Show. And if by chance there is anyone in your church that has an alcohol problem and doesn't
drive down State Street because there is a bar on that street... make sure that NO ONE from your
church drives down that street, because, "It is a terrible seduction for
some and that makes it something to completely avoid." I think you get my point... it came
from the middle of my mouth. -Jonathan
STIMULATED TO THINK:
Jonathan -I can tell you put a lot of thought into this article about
MySpace. Thanks for that-if youth workers read it, I think they'll really be challenged to
Jonathan - great work on this article. I know the kids I work with were
all over myspace so I got on too! I have an account post stuff about our events and chat with kids
all the time through messages and posting comments. I can't help but think that they know that I
look at what is posted on their sites and I am there to chat with so it kind of helps them out.
Overall monitoring myspace or anything else isn't the solution - the solution is helping our
friends learn how to filter and make sound Biblical decisions based on a personal relationship
with Jesus Christ, but now I am just preaching to the choir! -Brent
Amen brotha. Your last three lines sum it all up. Next time I think I'll have
you write the article. ? -Jonathan
YO man! I have written you before about how much I love what you're doing.
I wanted to write you and let you know that I just read your article about myspace.com. Great job!
I use myspace in my ministry for promotion and getting to know the students in the community around
me. I am also using this site to get back in touch with kids I went to school with, kids that I
witnessed to growing up that hopefully this will help me continue that witness. It has worked for
me so far, but I am very aware of the dangers it has. Thank you Jonathan again, for helping us
youth pastors out! -Adam
I happened upon your article regarding myspace whilst I was browsing
various other narrow-minded forums and news sites, but I have to say that your article really
takes the biscuit. Frankly, the reason kids are turning to myspace is because of the kinds of
attitude you people have. I am 16 and have 2 younger brothers and a sister, who ALL use myspace.
What you dont seem to understand is that myspace is one of the few places that kids and teenagers
feel comfortable, merely because you people dont have control. I think that is the way it should
stay. I control our local network in my house and I will tell you that on our network there are
absolutely NO barred sites. This is a concept that you people seem not to understand - trust. I
will tell you that my brothers and sisters are the best behaved and morally intelligent kids I
know. This comes from good parenting. If people are unable to offer the moral reasons for not
surfing for porn or talking to random people then they are not good parents. People who shelter
their children are not good parents. I apologise for the lack of structure to this email but I
was pretty angry when I wrote it after reading your article. I will confess - I don't know the
way your social structure works in America, but it seems to me that here in Britain parents are
much more accepting and open minded than you. Im not being racist or whatever you want to accuse
me of, but the social structure in your country needs to mature - fast, or else you are all going
to lose your children's respect. I do feel for you and I understand your concern, but it really is
blown entirely out of proportion. One last thing I noted about your site - your motto: "Helping
Youth Workers Reach Kids". I find that higly ironic, as all you seem to be doing is pushing them
in entirely the wrong direction. Don't block your kids socialising, research it, try to understand
it. Thats how you will get closer to the kids you want to help. I thank you for your time, and I
hope you at least take into consideration some of the things I have said. -Joe.
Joe... is there a place that I can return the biscuit? I didn't even know I
UNAWARE BUT STILL DISAGREEING:
Jonathan, I appreciate your article this week and the week previous. I was
mostly unaware of the MySpace epidemic that has recently consumed our teenagers. However, I
feel it is necessary to disagree with you on some of the stands you have taken. Your argument
that -kids are going to hear about myspace one way or another, so I would prefer that they do it
with me present in order to keep an eye on them- just won't suffice. I ask you, where do you draw
the line? There is an endless amount of things that teens can gain access to "one way or another".
That doesn't make them any less dangerous or wrong. Would we allow our kids to "learn discernment"
with marijuana as long as we are there to keep an eye on them. Certainly not. All that does is
fuel the myth that Christian teens need to sample the world and all it has to offer, so that they
might be better Christians. I am all for adding understanding to knowledge. Teaching teens "why"
not to do something is just as important as teaching them not to do it in the first place. But
surely you wouldn't place your sons hand on a hot stove to help him learn "discernment" in that
area. Your other argument, that Jesus would be where the sinners are, I believe is true. But are
you really likening our teens to the Son of God. I know that the name Christian suggests that we
strive for Christ likeness, but there are ways to "be where the sinners are" without getting
caught up in the sin with them. I'm sorry but I don't think this is a temptation teens can resist.
We are supposed to be guarding them from the pathway to sin, not holding the gate for them.
MySpace was setup by worldly people who do not care about righteous living or our teens, and that
is fine. You can't expect the world to act any other way but like a lost person. However, you
should expect and demand that Christians, regardless of age, act like Christians.
Jared... you mentioned that you were mostly unaware of the MySpace epidemic. I'd
encourage you to check it out for yourself before you make your judgments...because you just
compared MySpace to Marijuana or a hot stove. I think you need to be careful with your reasoning
... it's starting to make CLEARLY DISAPPOINTED's reaction above sound logical.
Realize that there are two polar reactions that we can have to MySpace: 1. We can shrug our
shoulders and let kids do whatever they want. 2. We can ban MySpace completely because it is "the
devil!" I don't think either is the answer. But I think if you re-read my article, you'll find
that I am a little closer to #2 than number one. I actually went as far as to say that I don't
think any kids under 16 should be on it. That's pretty extreme (that's what made the 16-year-old
above so mad). But I think it would be foolish of me to make a blanket statement that "MySpace is
just wrong!" (Funny, the 16-year-old didn't give me any props for that!)
You actually nailed the issue in your response to my article. You asked, "Where do you draw the
line?" Sorry, I don't think it's my place to tell you or parents where that line is. I went as far
as to give you all the information and the dangers... and I told you that my personal answer as a
parent was "No. I've blocked the site for right now." So you might want to be careful who you
accuse of putting their son's hand on a hot stove.
Addressing your argument about me "likening teens to the Son of God." Sorry, you need to read
again. I wasn't comparing Christ to our teens. I was talking about how youth workers need to
follow Christ's example and go where the sinners are. But only with extreme caution and
accountability. Here's my exact words:
And that's the catch, isn't it. How can youth workers use MySpace without putting
themselves in vulnerable situations? Let's be honest. Some of us might need to block
MySpace from our own computers and only log on when we're with a co-worker or spouse
in the room.
Jared, I appreciate your heart for doing what's right. I hope you never change.
But be careful with blanket statements. I know several parents of 17 and 18 year olds who use
MySpace with their kids, and I haven't observed them "holding the gate" to the "pathway of sin."
These parents have actually done an incredible job at teaching their kids discernment in numerous
areas of their lives including media, relationships and who they choose to hang out with. Each
parent needs to make that decision. I hope my articles help them do that. I hope they help you
make those decisions as well. -Jonathan
Dear Jonathan, This article was emailed to me by a friend and it is one of
the best "forwards" I've ever received. Not only am I a mother of a 14 year old daughter (with a
myspace) and 10 year old son, I am a Christian school teacher who struggles to deal with these
issues with sixth graders. Thanks for your well written and informative article. I am rarely moved
to respond to articles but this is such an epidemic in the world I live and work in and I feel
unarmed and defenseless in a huge battle for the lives of our tweens and teens. -Tonya
Tonya- thanks for your response. I hope the article helped "arm you" for this
battle. You aren't defenseless with your own kids-you have control over what they watch and listen
to. Talk with your kids about this. A 14 year old is pretty vulnerable in a MySpace world. "No" is
not a bad answer. After prayer and research, make your decision and explain it to your daughter.
But continue to be proactive in your relationship with your daughter. Rules without a relationship
can lead to rebellion. -Jonathan
WANTING TO BE PURE:
Jonathan, I recently created an account with myspace.com to "get in the
game." It's been great for networking with my kids, but I am getting tired of the "find naughty
singles" advertisements every time I go to my profile page. I'm also tired of getting invited to
be friends with girls I don't know who are scantily clad. In general, it seems that I can't be on
myspace.com without being tempted in a way that I am scared of. I'm probably going to close my
account soon. I thought you might want to know my experience as you complete your next article.
I'm really interested in hearing what you have to say, because I really want to be relevant and I
really want to be pure at the same time. -David
David, Thanks for your honesty. I think you're doing the right thing. Cancel it.
Or, set up an account that you only use once a week with several of your staff gathered around the
computer checking out your kid's pages together. Only access the site with accountability or just
skip it all together. -Jonathan
USING IT AS A TOOL:
Loved the myspace article, we have had a ton of kids come to shows and youth
events because of myspace. We USE it as a tool! Josh
I would agree that myspace.com should be blocked from computers. We came
upon this space after a teen friend came to live with us and after browsing the site came across
very disturbing pictures and language. Thanks for taking the time to write these worthwhile
ACCESSING IT, BUT NOT ENDORSING IT
Hey jonathan, Thanks so much for the insightful articles the past couple of
weeks. I appreciate your spirit of really trying to research both sides of the ?myspace' issue
from a ministry aspect. A few months ago I created a myspace account. It's been an encouragement
at times (to see kids who seem to actually live one life) and a heart breaker at times to see
students who think they can say some awful things on there. As someone who's struggle through my
high school life and college life was pornography, that has been the biggest downside for me with
myspace. The ads. After realizing that those ads were popping up more often than not...I now only
access myspace either in my office (my computer monitor faces my door with traffic going by
frequently) OR at my home while my wife's around. That for me is the only reason I haven't used
myspace as a youth group website, simply because I couldn't control the ads that popped up while
students were visiting our youth group website...nothing like doing your yearly ?sex series' and
having a visual made up FOR you. Thanks again for your insight...I'll be including your article in
our next month parents newsletter. -Phil
Phil, I'm glad to hear about your discernment. I'm glad our article was a
resource for you.
I wanted to personally thank you for your last two articles about the
myspace website. I had heard some about it, but had not gone to check out the site myself.
WOW!!!! What an eye opener. I really like the fact as a youth pastor, I can almost look into the
soul of teenagers from my group. Some I am sad to say was very shocking in a bad way. But at the
same time this is a great tool, that is another way to connect with my kids and allows me to get
a TRUE glimpse into their own lives. I really appreciate the fact that you are not so quick to
try and boycott things or speak so negatively, but instead you try to look for the positives and
find what good can come from something that is already HUGE in our culture. -Jeff
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IMPORTANT NOTE: Notice that opinions seem to vary about what actually works or
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Black Light Dodgeball
Hang black lights in the gym and use black light reflective tape on the court lines and the balls
(spray paint can fade by the end of the game, then you can't see the balls). Have the kids wear
white shirts and socks so they have clear targets to hit with the balls.
Added by Lisa Baer
Nuclear Ultimate Football Event
This could cost some money- but will usually pay for itself if you can bring out enough kids and
charge $3 to $5 a kid. Purchase around 25 to 50 glow sticks, 5 to 10 strands of little Christmas
lights, one glow in the dark necklace per person playing and several Nerf "Luminator" series
footballs. They are each powered by nine volt batteries and are around $15 a football. Take your
crew out to a dark field, build an end zone and playing field with Christmas lights and glow
sticks for sidelines. Split into two teams (different colored necklaces). Play ultimate Frisbee
rules with the footballs. This event is an incredible visual image and something they will never
Black Light Volleyball
Hang black lights in the gym. Instruct all participants to wear all black, white sox and to bring
an extra pair of white socks. Spray paint a volleyball with glow in the dark/black light sensitive
paint. Play volleyball with the people wearing the socks on their hands and the lights off in the
Added by Adam Gross
Black Light Basketball
Get two black lights and set them up at mid court. Have everyone wear a white shirt that night.
Mark one team with electrical tape on their shoulders so they know who has what team.
Make sure to get a glow-in-the-dark basketball and then hang red glow sticks on one rim and
green glow sticks on the other rim. Caution: the first time I tried this I used a normal
basketball wrapped in reflective tape but the tape just reflected the black in the black
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